Tuesday, October 03, 2006

Lawful

Cigarettes.
Cigars.
Wine.
Public School.
UFC.
Church Buildings.
Medicine.
Birth Control.
Professionals Gifts.
Radio Programs.
Beer.
Pulp Fiction.
Periodic Communion.
Television.
Movies.
Wealth.
Second Car.
Mission Agencies.
Instrumental Praise.
Friday Fellowship.
Secular Secondary Education.
Fundraising.
Working Mothers.

21 comments:

jw said...

Greetings, O Highly Esteemed! I was detained by the Prince of Persia for the last 3 weeks, so I have just arrived to post to this blog.

(This "excuse" worked for the Angel in Daniel 10. So I thought I would try it here. Let me know if it flies...)

Anyway, these are some things I have struggled with in the Body (whether in person or thru various digital media) in the last few months. There was some push and pull. Some Tug. Some War. However, in the end, my heart settled on the "permissible."

I hope that I am not abusing the Scripture or wresting the verse from its natural habitat, but I refer you to the Apostle who said, "...everything is permissible for me but not everything is profitable."

This is where the Hypocretan heart lies on these subjects.

Please add to the list:

Julie Anne said...

What is "Friday Fellowship" ?

And if you don't mind me asking, what bothers you about "instrumental praise"?

Not at all trying to pick at you, just curious.

jw said...

Hey lil' mama,

I am not opposed to any of the things on the list! They are simply things that I've read about, or had discussions with people about or seen arguments over. To be fair, some of the things on the list may not be as profitable as their alternative. But I am not against them, in and of themselves.

The point I was trying to make (obviously not too clearly) is that some people are patently against these things and feel any involvement in them is wrong.

Nothing bothers me about instrumental praise music! "Friday Fellowships" refers to those who do not have "church" on the traditional Lord's Day. Imagine people doing that.... :)

Julie Anne said...

Understood. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I love life and if I want to drink, smoke, or anything else (not sin of course) I do it and have no guilt over it ! I wish more believers felt the way you do, so many people are so bound up by their "beliefs" that they have and are no fun.
Look at Jesus, drinking wine and feasting with the disciples, how awsome an example to live by. He wasn't bound and bogged down, he was free and that's how I live everyday of my life.

Anonymous said...

One more thought,
For all those people that think they have a right to oppress other people and take away their life, I would say get a life of your own and leave God's people alone. Quit trying to stifle people out of having fun or doing what they want to just because you don't have any and you use the name of God to do it, I hate that !

jw said...

I could probably guess who this "Anonymous" is...in a couple of tries. But I won't venture a guess.

Thanks for your passionate thoughts.

Cheers!

Here's to freedom in Christ, forgiveness among brothers and free-flowing grace.

I will also lift my mug to obedience, faith in the Lord Jesus, wisdom and moderation.

Double-tap. Two times.

Peace.

Anonymous said...

Bushmills.
Hummers.
Country "music".

"Working Mothers"
Hear, hear. My wife is a mother, and she works harder than I ever have.

c said...

Uh huh.. uh huh...

And crystal meth.
Abortion.
Homosekshuls.
Periodic Communion. (Wait, that's already been used, eh.)
Amy Grant (and just goth growler bands in general.)
Sloughing personal responsibility off on a central government for absolution.
Assimilation in a Borg cube.
Sloughing personal responsibility off on someone conveniently nearby for absolution.
Frivolous lawsuits.
Arrogance.
Malice.
Greed.
Adultery.
Tything a tenth of the mint, dill, and cummin whilst dishonoring the parents for Corban.
And staring wall-eyed right through the spirit of the list while sticking roughly to the original format.

c said...

Medicinal meth, that is.

Anonymous said...

"Abortion.
Homosekshuls.
blah blah blah
Arrogance.
Malice.
Greed.
Adultery."

Are you saying that the above things fall under the heading of "lawful" as stated by Paul:

"All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

Is that what you are saying?

jw said...

I think Mr. CeWL absolved himself (if I may be so liberal) when he said,

"And staring wall-eyed right through the spirit of the list while sticking roughly to the original format."

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"My wife is a mother, and she works harder than I ever have."

Heard. Agreed.

Anonymous said...

Oh, so it wasn't supposed to make sense then. I get it.

c said...

Thank you, there, jdub. i also stared wall-eyed at that question, and ... well, vapor-locked. You're so dang conciliatory..ating..ish. That's an awful refreshing quality. i was 'bout to give in and admit it: i'm an in-the-closet Presbyterian. This is really about the country music, ain't it?

Seriously, i appreciate the list-- poesy and all. The "permissables" vs. "profitables" is a perspective-giving stop-n-think. i was going with the "legal" vs. "profitable," just for the record Antonio. i was trying to subtly sneak past the "permissable" to see if anyone noticed. And no offence to any presbyters who might frequent the Hypocretan. There isn't a serious bone in my body.

Anonymous said...

Ok well, I just don't understand you I guess. I mean, I don't understand your meaning in your latest comment above. "Conciliatory" implies that there was animosity/hostility on one or both of our parts... were you angry that I asked the question?

"i was trying to subtly sneak past the "permissable" to see if anyone noticed"

Sorry, but you came across with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. Or was that what you intended, and now you are being humorous? I'm confused.

c said...

"Angry" that you asked the question i was not. It was just the "bull in the china shop" subtlety i was relying on. It's just that yer question came across a li'l hostile. Were you really ready to give me credit for trying to pass off adultery and frivolous lawsuits as lawful?! Amy Grant?! Dah! i'm always trying to be humorous-- it just almost never works. i wasn't born with the knack.

[very long sigh]

i do not think homosexuality is lawful. Whatever else homosexuality might be, "just fine with God" is not among them. This is about the country music, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

"Were you really ready to give me credit for trying to pass off adultery and frivolous lawsuits as lawful?!"

Your mixing lawful with unlawful is what confused me (e.g., meth vs. abortion). Just looking for clarification. I'm not smart/sophisticated enough to understand your philosophical humour.

c said...

Aha. i did catch that m'self, and it bugged me. So i came back with the "medicinal meth" thang, just to be consistant with the "legal" category. Didn't work so well. i actually had methadone in mind, to clear that mess up, but it's not the same thing. So i'm sorry. i was mostly just being goofy as usual.

And don't you go hiding behind a sudden onset of self-deprecation.

Farisee: "Hi, my name is Farisee J. R., and I'm not smart/sophisticated enough to understand your philosophical humour."

Herd of Sheep: "Welcome, Farisee."

F: "It's been many years since i understood philosophical humor, but a few weeks ago i was sorely tempted."

HOS: "Say it ain't so, brother! Tell it! Let 'im tell about it! Purge, brutha'!"

F: "Well, it was cody. He..."

HOS: "cody?! cody's a nitwit! That schmuck isn't smart/sophisticated enough to produce philosophical humour!"

F: "Yeah, well look: i was tempted, see..."

HOS: "You were tempted only to understand nonsense, brother. It is a wind-egg, a chasing after the wind, a vanity (which is waaay down on the list under 'Peccadillos & Minor Vices'); yer eternal soul is safe."

F: "I WAS TEMPTED! And stop calling me 'brother'; i'm not a friggin' sheep! (Dah! What'm I even doing here?)"

HOS: :But brother..."

F: "If you call me 'brother' one more time i will uzi you all into fertilizer! Yeesh, i'm leaving. None of you probably ever even really were smart/sophisticated enough to understand philosophical humour in the first place!"

HOS: "Ach! Blasphemy! My collective ear is bleeding! Into the outer darkness with him! Heretic! He's obviously still smart/sophisticated enough to understand philosophical humour! Crucify!"

c said...

;-)

Anonymous said...

Man, you're bizarre. As usual, I come away from this conversation with you not knowing whether to feel satisfied or insulted...

c said...

Likewise, i'm sure. But, to be straight wit'cha, i wasn't trying to be insulting. i just won't give you credit for not being sharp enough to weed through my drivel. Unfair weapon, that is; 's like bringing an atomic bomb to our li'l bazooka fight.

"The ref's blown a whistle and it looks like there's a flag on the play... Yes. That'll be a five yard penalty."